Hey there Evelyn! I figured I should ask you about something that's been troubling me with my brand new Gas Mask. It's a M65 Drager, however it's accompanied by a [ MS-4-172 / 92 P2 F ] Filter. It's definitely GOST, It's probably adjustable to the M65, however. Do you think it'd be safe to use?
I don't know for sure, but my personal preference is to avoid the use of bloc-manufactured GOST filters. Enough of the filters are known to contain asbestos, and they weren't exactly known for their safety record.
Hey there! I've looked around for info pertaining to my M17A2 and its M6A2 chemical hood and I have stumbled upon this wiki. I've noticed that many others come to you for help with questions, so I suppose I'll ask.
My M17A2 is quite old (as expected because of the period of service from '59- about '94) and actually use to belong to my father. He told me that he picked it up at a surplus store in the early 2000s for about 10 dollars. The mask itself has been worn a few times by both him and I, but the chemical hood has never come out of its paper envelope (kind of like an envelope at least). Upon pulling the chemical hood out of its package, I noticed it had a thin layer of powder akin to dust all over it. I recall reading somewhere that the hoods are packed with a powder of sorts to help keep its quality up during years of prolonged storage (my mask in particular is dated back to February 1987 as listed by the paper envelope containing the chemical hood), but I'm not sure entirely. What would you say I do? Would I be wise to wash my chemical hood off, or is it best left alone?
I know this is kind of a stupid question, but I can't find answers anywhere. :P
Alright, thanks for the help! I will definitely go do that. Putting up a page on talc would be a good idea too, lol.
Nice mask collection by the way. You even listed your girlfriend's collection too! I've noticed there are a lot of collectors here on this wiki. I'm thinking about collecting more masks down the road once my sitution in life improves.
The Soviet EO-18K filter is at least extremely similar to, and manufactured in the same period as other Soviet filters containing asbestos, and it seems like the Bulgarian one is just a straight clone. I can't say with certainty, but I'd advise that you keep the filter sealed.
I had the filter on when I tried it on initially, literally only seconds and it appeared sealed as couldn't breathe with it, it was air tight, so removed the filter. The mask was full of a lot of dust and white powder as it irritated my throat for a while after. I'm just paranoid now I've inhaled something nasty. Thanks so much. I know all this is a niche area and this mask was just an impulse buy so appreciate your insight.
The mask is just full of talc, quite often used as a rubber preservative for masks from that era. It's not great to breathe in, but it's nothing much to worry about. Just dunk it in a sink and spend a while scrubbing it with a flannel, and you should be able to get the worst of it off.
As for the filter, I wouldn't worry about that either. Any amount of asbestos can increase your risk of mesothelioma, but the amount (if any) in the filter is relatively small, and you had no airflow anyhow.
Again, you're most welcome! Safety is, for better or worse, one of the most useful and rewarding contributions we can make to the non-collectors around us.
Well thank you for your time and advice. I appreciate it very much. People not versed with this stuff wouldn't think of hazards, they're just eager to grab it and put it on completely oblivious. Just glad to know so I can add the knowledge on.
I'll keep it. I like it and I agree, key is education and a few people in the know, like your good self.
I can't make any real use of this link for some reason, but we do know that a Dutch laboratory examined samples from a GP-5 filter canister, and determined that there was asbestos content. It's referred to in a bit more detail here.
Right, his comments on the WWII masks are faultless. Chromium comments? Better than faultless. He was ahead of us there in citing that DoD study.
On asbestos in GP-5 canisters? He was wrong, but so were many of us at that time, myself included. Noting that people dissected filters and didn't see asbestos is nonsensical though. Depending on the form, you'd need a scanning electron microscope to be certain.
Minus points for referring to filters as "East German". The so-called GDR only imported military masks, primarily from the Soviet union, and later, in smaller quantities, from Czechoslovakia.
Minus points for "military GP-5". The ShM41 preceded the ShM62(u), and I can only assume that's what he's referring to.
He's posted a later video contradicting the earlier GP-5 asbestos claims, but I'm going to suggest that he unlists this previous one due to the public health implications (thanks very much for bringing it to my attention <3)
Ah ok and you're welcome. Just happened across that from Googling the filter on mine. I just didn't know anything this morning, completely ignorant and oblivious but that's how you learn I suppose but good to know the risks. Also good to know there's people about in the know so useful to network for advice.
I'll clean mine tomorrow. It's bagged in my shed at the moment as wasn't sure what else to do with it for safety until I'd got things queried.
As you say mine could be a clone of that GP-5 canister so I'll pitch the filter and thoroughly clean the mask for safety and keep it. I have noticed my filter has a cap on the bottom to stop the airflow and the filter itself appears intact and charcoal free, so I'll box clever and be safe.
The S10 hood doesn't even fit the S10 well, so I'd advise against that.
Looking on ebay, I can see some FM/CT-12 outserts for sale, similar to those available for the S10. Just remember that the lenses and frames are different sizes, so the outserts won't be interchangeable.